tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1006756506138243815.post7844853592599957148..comments2023-09-09T03:52:47.048-04:00Comments on Trail Tripping: Are GPS Tracks Proof for an FKT?Sara Montgomeryhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13015835021322201315noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1006756506138243815.post-89391521108345251282014-11-24T21:10:55.082-05:002014-11-24T21:10:55.082-05:00Interesting post! I like the honor system. But if ...Interesting post! I like the honor system. But if proof is really needed - I think they need to both be combined and it is too bad that the two technologies are not better integrated into one device (someday a smart phone if sat chips become norm). I use a delorme satellite tracker and a GPS. Why? The sat tracker only shows location points every 10 minutes (or whatever you set it at), but you can't get it to measure at the frequency of a GPS because of battery drain - so you can't use it to infer distance accurately. A GPS - while easy to tamper with - will at least add some complimentary info and also allow someone else trying your route to really follow your route - not just where you were. And please just say NO to SPOT products. They will just get you in trouble. If nothing else, use something on the irridium network. Last - consider the category of OKTs - Only Known Times! Cheers. www.sethwolpin.comSeth Wolpinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16625257037895134059noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1006756506138243815.post-83412532906593953602014-05-23T11:27:33.046-04:002014-05-23T11:27:33.046-04:00I am of the "huh, interesting" camp.
Eve...I am of the "huh, interesting" camp.<br />Even if that is a race against the clock with yourself more than anything. <br /><br />Dude has some wheels though. And some guns.<br /><br />GZhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12623054918799881730noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1006756506138243815.post-61571127506937098952014-05-23T10:56:41.973-04:002014-05-23T10:56:41.973-04:00Geoff, yup it does the work for you.
GZ, Ha ha r...Geoff, yup it does the work for you. <br /><br />GZ, Ha ha re the beer mile record. Are you in the 'it was a 400 yard track' camp or 'the beer was water' camp? Or other? Sara Montgomeryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13015835021322201315noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1006756506138243815.post-56976575731306797452014-05-23T10:51:27.869-04:002014-05-23T10:51:27.869-04:00As GPS watches evolve and have things like Bluetoo...As GPS watches evolve and have things like Bluetooth options (or quicker SPOT track settings), we will be able to tune in 'live' and see things like FKTs and races play out online in real time. As is though, the honour system is still an important part of the whole thing at this point. Hopefully before too long this will change though. Derrickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05226053638415425937noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1006756506138243815.post-24564880848157091502014-05-23T10:33:36.983-04:002014-05-23T10:33:36.983-04:00Good fun post. Couple of disconnected thoughts.
...Good fun post. Couple of disconnected thoughts.<br /><br />The FKT has pretty much almost always been an honor system thing. It was not too long ago that they were just done with a self stated claim. Sometimes folks with compliment it with pictures, but the GPS element is relatively new to it. I am pretty sure in fact, that FKTs on the R2R2R route are not GPS'd as the read gets all wonky in the canyon.<br /><br />Bunch of years ago, a handful of us did a typical route here in the west of Boulder ... Green Mountain. The guy who "won" that day, broke 30 on the route - but exactly by how much, we did not know. He had not worn a watch, and so he established his time by asking someone on the top what their watch said, and then did the math when the next finisher came up. At the time, it was what we thought was the FKT on Green. We had no problem doubting him as he smoked us all that day (and later in the year he won Mt. Washington). <br /><br />... anyway, I have heard one guy claim he was intending to mop up a bunch of CRs on Strava by biking at 11.8 mph in a lot of places.<br /><br />Heck, even if you do video stuff these days, it is question. Just look at that guy who got the beer mile record ... <br />GZhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12623054918799881730noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1006756506138243815.post-50063924312447287482014-05-22T21:24:51.234-04:002014-05-22T21:24:51.234-04:00It's even easier to manipulate files with http...It's even easier to manipulate files with http://www.digitalepo.comGeoff Anoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1006756506138243815.post-60046914396728335052014-05-22T19:56:35.485-04:002014-05-22T19:56:35.485-04:00Wow, interesting post Sara. Thanks! Wow, interesting post Sara. Thanks! Coreyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11945165993874249762noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1006756506138243815.post-3437511491936460462014-05-22T16:05:33.242-04:002014-05-22T16:05:33.242-04:00I have often wondered about gps tracking since I h...I have often wondered about gps tracking since I have recently started using strava. Sometimes Bruce and I will run the exact same route together but our data varies enormously. I am keen to have one person carry both tracking devices to see how different the results can be. Love the geek part of the sport!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1006756506138243815.post-76249597560900157382014-05-22T10:41:50.878-04:002014-05-22T10:41:50.878-04:00One post got me called geeky and sneaky!One post got me called geeky <i>and</i> sneaky!Sara Montgomeryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13015835021322201315noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1006756506138243815.post-80906558450164033932014-05-22T01:28:33.829-04:002014-05-22T01:28:33.829-04:00Really interesting article and great points. I did...Really interesting article and great points. I didn't realize you were so sneaky! ;)BarbChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04018431366269865102noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1006756506138243815.post-35027423330839096972014-05-21T18:42:43.662-04:002014-05-21T18:42:43.662-04:00I used May My Run once when I carried my iphone on...I used May My Run once when I carried my iphone on a slow 5 hour snowshoe run. I forgot about it when I got home and jumped in my car and drove 20km into Kingston before I remembered to stop the program. Funny thing was that my average pace still wasn't anything extraordinary. I think if you want to claim an FKT it is best to have many kinds of proof that somehow back each other up but as you demonstrated someone with the knowledge to cheat could probably do so if they chose to...but as you also say, who would do that? And Sara may I say that I am in awe of your geekyness!Eliza Ralph-Murphyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04095749168151599461noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1006756506138243815.post-77705290892014069812014-05-21T16:27:32.893-04:002014-05-21T16:27:32.893-04:00Very interesting. I think it's a really good t...Very interesting. I think it's a really good thing to make people aware of this.Derrickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05226053638415425937noreply@blogger.com